Canine Distemper

[cbw3099]

I have a 12 week old beagle that just started having the running eyes and nose. We just lost a shelter puppy on 3/4/09 of distemper. The two puppies had only a door between them. We tryed to keep them from getting near each other, but we are no sure if it worked. Yesterday, we took her to the vet with no fever and little drainage no mention of paws or teeth. This morning I get a call, she is running a 102 fever more drainage, paw pads are harder, teeth browning, and gums bleeding. Here in South Texas, this Vet want to do a scraping of the inter-eyelid and send it to A&M University for confirmation of distemper
Are we on the right trace? If the test comes back positive in 4-5 days, how is the right way for me to ask my vet about the treatment you have decribed in some of the other blogs I have read. HELP?

[Daveyo]

Hi CBW

First of all having a temp reading of 102 is not really a high fever for the animal. Distemper fevers will reach near 106 degrees.

On your post here you have indicated some specific signs of the disease, with the teeth browning especially and the pads hardening.

First of all you need to confirm this officially, and the best and fastest way is to do this test which is 100% accurate and you can get this answer in about 30 minutes from the VET.

Here is the test procedure>
The most reliable test to confirm distemper,the person needs to do a Brush Border slide/smear of the bladder transitional epithelium of the inside lining from the bladder. Stain with Dif-Quick. These cells ALWAYS have inclusions. So, easy to collect, easy to stain (quick dip) and instantly diagnosed with inclusions in these cells which will stain a beautiful carmine red color in the cytoplasm of infected cells and para nuclear. About 90% of the bladder cells will be positive for inclusions in the early stages of distemper. This is good for at least the first 21 days from onset of the disease. After this point, it gets harder to detect as the disease progresses further in the stages and the physical clinical signs will become quite obvious.

Any Qualified medical person can tell you how to get these cells from the bladder. Use the Urinary catheter. Empty the bladder and flush this with saline and collect some of the last saline. Spin down the saline and remove the cells. Place on slide and dry stain with diff-quick. Very common stain used by most medics or lab people who use medical microscopy. Everyone? I should hope so. Very fast, very cheap, very accurate for Dx of distemper and the results can be seen in about 30 minutes. If NEGATIVE> then either kennel cough or respiratory Herpes or Toxoplasmosis. When it is Positive you will see it quite clearly being red in color. This test can all be done inside the VET Clinic with no problems and also no danger to anyone in or out of the same area. A very relative safe technique. To date, this test has never failed for us and is extremely very accurate and saves time in making the right diagnosis.

So you need to do this first and most importantly. Why wait for 5 days or more?? If this disease is present then you can do some fast action and get the NDV and get the injections done quickly because as time moves forward this disease will progress and it will make the dog get worse.

So please find a VET to do this specific test. I strongly do suggest you go to my site and study up and read up about Distemper. It is located at [moderator note: website address has been removed] and here you will have all the medical protocols as well to give to your VET. If you have any questions you can either write to me here or at my site.

Tell your VET to do the procedure of what I just said here. Leave that eye alone - OK

The best way for you to ask and present to your VET about this treatment, is first ask your VET for their cooperation and to please do this procedure for you, if it is confirmed to be Distemper from the above test ^, there is no other known treatment to save your dog at current present time, > other than this treatment and medical protocol you have copied for Your VET coming from a qualified DVM expert, and from a researcher who have well over 650 proven cured cases, as well as neurological cases, and can cure your dog both ways in 24 hours.

If your VET asks you why it is still not in the books, tell the VET we are in the process of trying to get it reported and it is a huge hurdle to get the smarts involved and get the FDA involved plus meet other criterias before it gets to the Journals. All this takes time and it costs a huge amount of money at the same time of which we just don't have or can afford paying 40,000 dollars a month to the smarts finalizing the research to obtain the rest of the missing medical data and answers that the FDA and others who want to know etc. Your VET should know after saying this of what is involved.

You need to get your VET to cooperate and to see this for themselves the results. They have nothing to lose but more to gain, and all of this is a pure medical procedure and protocol. If you follow the procedure precisely without deviating the instructions as given, you will not lose the dog and will be curing many animals on a constant basis. We have a proven official track record, and a proven official medical cure of which now many VETS who try this procedure are seeing the same incredible results and are slowly getting convinced that this treatment and cure is for real.

Granted many in the medical field are so ingrained into thinking there is no cure, with the huge amount of deluge of negativism, and are so focused on vaccine etc which they think will stop this disease and they are losing the battle as this disease still keeps infecting unvaccinated animals which are many.

Your VET needs to open up and allow the new medical research to improve their medical practice. We will not tell you to do this if this procedure and cure does not work. I have absolutely no faith in homeopathic or herbal remedies and those people who do that ought to be put in prison because they are defrauding the public constantly every day.

You are dealing with a VIRUS and not something that is a simple infection. This VIRUS is very deadly to animals, and it is very resilent and can go stealth and it attacks the brain and nervous systems of all animal species worldwide. Therefore Dr. Sears DVM who also came up with the SERUM cure, and I who discovered the CNS cure, have worked hard to bring this into reality and we now have proven official results.

Ok let me know if you have any problems

Daveyo

[Giftbearer]

Hi cbw3099,

I'd like to add that the paw pad hardening confirms it. Some of the other symptoms can be caused by mimic diseases but the rapid hardening of the paw pads is only caused by Distemper. It is the beginning of demyelination.

When my dog, Carmella developed that classic symptom within literally hours my vet knew it was time to treat. Her disease-process took a quick turn for the worst when she reached that stage so we had to hurry and get the NDV and get started to prevent any more damage.

If you are interested you might like to see Carmella's pictures 1 week and two weeks after treatment. Check out my photo documentation on IndyPublic. My username there is Pippit Carlington (Giftbearer) just in case you don't get this link saved in time. This is information your vet will probably want to see, as pictures are pretty solid proof that this does what we say it does. http://www.indiepublic.com/photo/albums/946391:Album:541951

My vet and his staff (the one who did the body portion of the treatment) were amazed to see her paw pads starting to heal after only 2 days and other symptoms begin to improve!

In one week Carmella's pads were greatly improved and after 2 weeks, completely healed.

I am currently working on a poster that I hope to get re-produced so vet's offices can put the information about Distemper and the treatment up on the wall of their offices. I may do several different ones including one to be given to shelters. Hopefully then we can start making a dent in some of these epidemics.

Pippit

[cbw3099]

Good news, the vet here did the distemper test that they are comfortable with (eyescrap thing).
We have found that no distemper was present. The vet was very curious about the information I gave her about your cure. I gave her this website, so she may be contacting you. Thank you for your help, and good luck with the cure making its way to main stream practice.

[Daveyo]

Hi Cbw

Did you say eye scrape. Please confirm

Daveyo

[cbw3099]

Yes, they do a scrape of the upper eyelid.

[Daveyo]

Hi CBW

Hmmm, please read the following very carefully OK

Rarely inclusions can be seen in the red cells. I have never seen inclusions in the conjunctiva. An IFA test of the conjunctiva to test for inclusions is available. I have no experience with this IFA test.

I believe this says it all because I have never seen any inclusions show up by doing that eye scrape.

It will always be negative.

So did the VET do the IFA test????

Daveyo

[Daveyo]

CBW

Also I would like to know why the VET is doing an AIDS test on your dog. People with AIDS usually have that test done as it was one of the first tests ever done against AIDS. If the eye scrape was able to detect distemper with a 99.9% degree of accuracy, I would have posted such findings as part of the medical protocol to test for Distemper.

So from that as I have said on the other post and this, you now have a huge and big ???????? mark concerning your dog and still not confirmed if the dog has Distemper or not.

Sorry to say this to you, but facts are facts and I play it straight and tell you up front. I cannot let feelings or emotions come into play here because that virus is deadly and dangerous to canines. Simple as it can be overall.

Daveyo

[cbw3099]

This is actully the second dog to have this done to them. The first was a shelter pup that tested positive. The beagle's test was negitive and she is now doing fine after antibodics. They think she had kennel cough. You know way more than I do, but then again so does the Vet.

[Daveyo]

Hi CBW

If the dog is doing fine and not having labor breathing, or any other clinical obvious signs of Distemper on the body, then the dog had something else.

Easy for you to narrow this down, Kennel cough the dog will be coughing quite a bit just like when a human has a cold and is constantly coughing. In the beginning stages the dog will have some labor breathing and feeling like sh*t. After a time period of 3 days have gone by, then the coughing becomes more pronounced. OK. This will tell you clearly, because Distemper does not cause a dog to cough constantly until it hits the pneumonia stage usually around day 11 onward.

Respiratory Herpes is the one disease that nearly mimics Distemper. The temps do go up and the dog will have labor breathing indicating Pneumonia. In this situation it is a hit or a miss because the way Respiratory affects the dog. The only clue that might show is the fever is more extended and steady whereas the fever in Distemper lasts only 3-4 days off and on, that is somewhat being different to spot it, and the other is the temp reading not reaching over 104 degrees, and the other the mucous is different.

That is why this test as we have posted tells you precisely and points you in the right direction for early detection and does the elimination process very quickly.

Antibiotics will not help or cure the animal of the Distemper virus, but cures pneumonia whereas it will cure Kennel Cough and Respiratory Herpes as those two are bacterial viral infections. Distemper is purely a viral infection requiring Vaccine.

Hope this clarifies everything and is more well understood

Daveyo