[PuppyRolo]

We adopted Rolo (2 month old labrador cross) from an animal shelter today. Rolo was vaccinated a few days ago with a broad spectrum vaccine. The shelter mentioned that Rolo had received vet care for parvo in the last three days. The vet had released her with a clean bill of health yesterday. We are however not confident as the vet in a discussion today could not remember Rolo and was not communicative. We took Rolo to our usual house vet today who is concerned about her fever (103F 39.5C) but felt that the other tests were good.
We will wait for tomorrow but I'm very worried.
Rolo does not act like an energetic, nuaghty puppy. Her appetite is very poor although she drinks water. She is very lethargic. Wet sloppy stool with traces of blood.
Can anyone provide some insight?
I'm also worried that it could be contagious to our 4yr old small male dog (fully vacinated)?
Thanks

[Daveyo]

Listen to me and pay attention. Your dog has Canine Distemper. Go to the Vet immediately and tell him to get the Lasota Newcastles Disease Virus and inject into the dogs vein. The dosage is 1cc per 10 pounds. So if your dog is less than 10 pounds then reduce dosage 0.01. A 5 pound dog will get 0.5 cc. If between the two weights add - do not subtract.

Do not wait any longer. If your dog did get vaccinated it did no good. Cure for Canine Distemper is between 12-48 hours. After three days from the NDV injection get a WBC (white blood cell count) done. If that WBC is below 7.0, you must prepare for the surprise attack which will come 3 weeks after the NDV. Canine Distemper can break the Brain Barrier and locate itself in the Cerebral Cranial Cavity in changed state and sit there sleeping. What triggers it- is unknown. Now if the WBC is low, you still have two options. You can get the Vet to put in Nupogen since the Canine Distemper does attack the bone marrow, bring up the WBC which will be needed and / and you can do the Cerebral Cranial Spinal Tap about 1.5 weeks after the initial NDV injection of which then the Vet will take some of the Brain Fluid out and mix it with NDV 0.2cc and put it back in. The dog will go into shock, and if treated right by the Vet the dog will come out of it. After this what happens is the C4 cells will change to C4 25 cells and protect the Brain and the virus that is present in the brain area will be killed off by the NDV.

If you not elect to do the cerebral Cranial Tap, and decide to wait it out, you can still save the dog when that attack takes place. First the dog will go nuts and run around trying to climb the walls etc, and you will see a lot of saliva on the dogs mouth. It will appear to be very scared and somewhat disorientated. After this episode, you got a 48 hour window before the next big attack. On the first one, do that Spinal Tap and inject the NDV within that first 12 hours from the first attack to prevent any further damage. After that the dog will recover.

Be advise if you do not do this the dog will be dead within 7 days from the first attack guaranteed.

If you do not do this immediately what happens is Canine Distemper will attack the myelin and the Schwann cells thus destroying the dog and its abilities. Injection of the NDV will restore this and also the recovery and damage will regress.

This is not in the medical journals as of yet. Please be advised that I had such done and my dogs are fine here and healthy. 4 of them

I wish you good luck. You must get this injection done NOW AND BE WITHIN THE 4-6 DAY WINDOW to avoid getting the serious side effects which will soon follow.

The dog will recover within 12 to 48 hours. AFTER THAT DO NOT DO ANY VACCINATION. If the WBC is low I would suggest you get the CSF done ASAP by your vet.

I can tell you more, but for now get the dog to the VET. You can get the Newcastles by any Agriculture Store or Animal Control Center.

[Daveyo]

Oh I see you have another dog, QUARANTINE ALL DOGS AND KEEP THEM APART. Distemper is a very virulent and deadly disease and it is AIRBORNE TYPE. Other dogs can catch it simply by breathing the breath from the infected dog. Also clean the area out such as your floors and put away all toys, and when you clean the floors use CLOROX BLEACH MIXED WITH WATER. Remember contain the infected dog until you do the NDV.

Canine distemper will continue to shed for 3 weeks after infection.



Do it now and keep them apart.

[Daveyo]

As to your dog, it being 4 years old, and fully vaccinated, you do not have to worry so much. I thought I saw it saying 4 month old. Still keep them apart for safety reason, and do not let other people who have dogs in their house come into contact at your place.

Canine Distemper virus can go as far as 20 miles diameter and infect any unvaccinated dogs.

yes this Disease is extremely very virulent and deadly.

[Daveyo]

If the dog has parvo it will die in 48 hours you will have very severe dehydration - blood in the stool, diarrhea, and it will not drink water. Treatment for Parvo is immediate IV and Tamiflu and antibiotics for the diarrhea, which if the vet has use chloramphenicol injection (this antibiotic is very sensitive to bacteria in the gastro-intestinal tract and is good) and and rest and make sure it is given the IV. Parvo also attacks the bone marrow lowering the WBC.

If your dog still alive, get a parvo antibody check and the distemper check. If the disease is present you will see it being very high, and if not it will be normal. If no antibody then the dog is very vulnerable to everything in sight.

you mean the vet says he felt it was good. Listen he better know what he is doing and should know these steps I tell you here.

for gawd sakes.

[Daveyo]

You can also get the antibody tests checked faster. Not sure if the vet has it, but the Elisa Test Kits for Parvo and Distemper is available and you can have all those results in less than an hour.

For the parvo test it can be done from the fecal matter on the elisa test kit

For distemper some blood needs to be drawn and then the 7 steps to get your readings.

[PuppyRolo]

Hi Daveyo. Many, many thanks for the advice! I will keep you updated on Rolo's progress.

[BNICLOVEJ]

I HAVE JUST LOST 2 PUPPIES TO DISTEMPER ONE TWO WEEKS AGO TODAY AND THE OTHER TODAY, AND NOW THE MOM IS VERY ILL TOO, IT DOES NOT SOUND TO ME LIKE IT IS DISTEMPER,MORE LIKE PARVO.NONE OF MY DOGS HAVE HAD DIAREHA,VOMITING,OR ANY BLOOD COME OUT OF THIER BODY AT ALL,EVEN WHEN THEY PASSED.THE BEST THING I CAN TELL U IS TO KEEP HIM AWAY FROM OTHER DOGS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE,AND GET HIM TO A VET.THEY WERE MY OUTSIDE DOGS,I DO HAVE A 2 1/2 YR OLD SHIH TZU THAT IS IN THE HOUSE AND HE IS FINE.JUST BOUGHT HIM SOME EXTRA VITAMINS AND NUTRIENTS (LIQUID FORM)TO PUT IN HIS FOOD.HE NEVER KNOWS THE DIFFERENCE.I HOPE I HAVE HELPED U.JUST KNOW THAT IF UR BABY STARTS HAVING SEIZURES,AND UNCONTROLABLE MUSCLE SPASMS,SEEMS OUT OF IT,AND CANT FOCUS,U HAVE LOST THE BATTLE.LOVE ALWAYS A HEARTBROKEN MOM THAT IS GOING TO HELP OTHER PEOPLE WITH SICK DOGS AS MUCH AS I CAN! P.S. PRAY

[Daveyo]

If it is parvo, the dog will have blood in the stool, and will be dehydrated very quickly and if not treated immediately it will die in 48 hours. Tamiflu and antibiotics and immediate IV will save the dog. Get the mother quickly to the vet and check for distemper antibodies, and if present, you need to inject the dog in the vein with newcastles disease virus vaccine of the LaSota strain 0.1cc for every pound of dogs weight. If dog is 5 pounds you give 0.5cc, 10 pounds 1.0cc 20 pounds 2cc.

This will stop the virus but not guarantee that distemper breached the blood brain barrier. After the NDV injection do a blood test to see the WBC count (white Blood Cell) - hopefully it is higher than 9.0 because Distemper will attack the bone marrow.

What you described is the last stages of distemper and it is the neurological phase. Put the dog to sleep no cure at that point.

To find out if the virus breached the blood brain barrier you need to do the Cerebral spinal cavity tap and check for distemper antibodies. If it is there, and positive, your only hope is the Newcastles of 0.2cc mixed with the brain fluid and put it back in. The dog will go into shock so treat for shock and plenty of IV and it will recover, and the dog will be fine after that.

What is with this vitamin stuff. It does nothing for the dog when it is sick with a very contagious airborne virus. Next time vaccinate your dogs in a timely manner.