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My on going Distemper story

Post a new topicby Geno on Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:32 am

Hi there, I just thought I would share my ongoing experience with other dog lovers in the hope that it may help me from going completely out of my mind.

My name is Geno, I’m an English guy living in China. I was raised by my grand mother who was a golden retriever breeder in the uk. So I would say that I have been around dogs all my life and I would also say that I like dogs more than a lot of people.

About 1 month ago, myself and my Chinese girl friend decided that the time was right to welcome a four legged friend into our lives. My company is doing Ok, we have a big home and we have the time to devout to a new addition to our family.

We had spent some months before researching other breeds as a golden was simply out of the question due to our life style and we didn’t feel we really had the room or access to enough out door space for one. We settled on one of three other breeds, Shiba Inu, Siberian husky or a Chow Chow.

After a lot of searching we found that a good quality breeder here in China is almost impossible to find so I had to break dog lovers rule number one and start looking in the pet shops. After a while we found a beautiful 2 month old Shiba Inu who clicked with us. This was at around 5:30 pm on a Sunday evening. We bought him and had the shop administer his first set of injections and we took him home. As it was Sunday night our plan was simple, we had already puppy proofed our home and we had booked an appointment at a descent vets (that we had found previously) for the following morning. To get the little fellow fully checked out. After about 2 hours of being home with us the poor little guy refused any food or water and then proceeded to display a very bad case of diarrhea. I presumed that it was probably from being in a new environment but we called the vet and rushed the little guy in that night, after a test it was determined that he had Pravo. Cutting a long story short, we decided that if we returned him to the shop they would probably do nothing for him so we tried. For three days he stayed at the vets on and off an IV to keep him from getting dehydrated. My girl friend spent every waking hour by his side trying to will him to fight. Sadly on the forth night at 2:30am our vet called us to tell us he had died. Even after such a short time we were heart broken. My poor girl friend had never had a dog before and this was such a shock to what should be the most wonderful time.

We were pretty devastated by this turn of events but we so wanted a dog so it was back to hunting the dreaded pet stores. After a couple of days we found a 2 month old Husky and this time we agreed with the shop that we would take him, but we wanted to be able to return him if our vet did not give him a clean bill of health. They agreed and we took him. Within 30 minutes we were back at our vets staring at a positive Pravo and a positive Distemper result. My big hearted girl friend said to me “should we try and help him?” With all my heart I want to say yes but I buried the feelings as deep as I could and said “darling, we can’t save every dog in the world” and we returned him to the shop. Again, this other shop owner was dismissive and even after looking at the positive results still didn’t want to admit that there was anything wrong. So biting my lip I took the refund and left the little guy in the hands of God.
After some time and a lot of thought, we decided we would try once more to find our new pup and as luck would have it we had stumbled across a lady in our city who is a genuine dog person. For years she had shown dogs and had all the photos and trophies to prove it. We were delighted; this woman was the real deal amongst a pack of evil no caring bastards. We told her our story and she was so sorry for us, she informed us that she was going to look at some new pups the following week and she could bring us back a 2 month old Husky and if we like him he was ours and she even said that she would sell him to us cheaper because of our previous experience.

The following week came and the lady called us and we raced down to her shop and there was this very well looking two month old Siberian Husky. Before myself and my girl friend jumped for joy we performed a Parvo and Distemper test and to our joy they were both clear.

The lady was so happy for us and the little fellow had his first set of vaccines and came home to our totally bleached and cleaned house to begin his new life. He had no problem adjusting in any way, eating, drinking, stool all were normal.

A few days later he caught what we thought was a cold, as it is winter here now, so back we tripped to the vets just to make sure and sure enough the vet concluded it was just a cold. A couple of days of flu shots and he was right as rain.

About 3 days later it began, first we noticed weeping eyes and a little drool coming out of his nose. His stool was fine and he was eating and drinking like crazy, but to be on the safe side we went back again to our vet. At our vets request we performed another Distemper test and to our horror it was positive. We were stunned, all the tests before had been fine, he had not been in contact with any other dogs or area’s where other dogs had been other than vets, which is very clean and sterile.

We are now into the third week and our little boy is holding on, and what is driving us mad is that he does not seem sick at all. Every couple of days his temperature goes up a little and then down, the highest we have seen it is 39.2 degrees. He has never been off his food or water and he plays all the time, he’s got bucket loads of energy and he has been putting weight on at an incredible rate. He was 2.85 KG when we got him just over three weeks ago and now he’s a massive 4.5 KG. He has nearly doubled in size and he just dose not seem sick.

His stool has been normal and there has been no vomiting. We just cannot understand what is going on.

Our vet has been giving him a viral suppressant to stop the Distemper moving too much. I had never heard of this before but apparently it is something the Chinese Army uses on their dogs for this. He has been having a daily dose of anti-biotics to fight off secondary infections and a half bottle IV to keep his electrolytes up.

Yesterday his stool was pudding and we were very worried but today its back to normal.

Other than his eyes and nose weeping and paw pad hardening, there are still no major normal Distemper symptoms.

Having never gone through this before with any dog in my life, I feel so helpless, I know that anything could happen at any moment and seeing him so well and active it’s so very hard to maintain a clear balanced mind and not just get complacent and think that everything is alright now.

He has just had another Distemper test today which was still positive but the reading took a fairly long time to show, which I guess is a good sign.


We are now just waiting because only time will tell, and it’s hard. We still do not know where he could have contracted Distemper from and our dog lady is horrified and so upset, she has been checking her dogs, we truly believe that she is in no way responsible. The only thing I can think of was that he has got it from his first vaccine, but from what I understand that would only be Nuro-distemper, So I am totally cluless.

If anyone has any similar experiences or any advice, I would be so grateful as this has got to be one of the hardest things I have ever gone through in my life.

Best regards

Geno
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Re: My on going Distemper story

Post a new topicby Daveyo on Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:41 am

Geno - my job is to save dogs. Look under Canine Distemper Topic here and see the title Cure for Distemper.

Your dog is having secondary symptoms. I will place this dog at about only 2 more weeks before the disease reaches his brain where there will be no possible way to cure him.

Distemper is extremely very virulent and contagious. In the future you should wait 2 months and clean out your place with a bleach water solution. All toys from previous dogs should be removed and destroyed. Wash all your clothes as well really good with soap. The virus can go out as far as 20 miles. It is an airborne and contact disease.

You can save your dog, and cure it in 12-48 hours Body wise. However be prepared for the second phase of which you will need to do within 7 days after this injection because no doubt it already breached the blood brain barrier and then you can save your dog brain wise.

So doing both ways with that you can still save your dog. Once you do this second part, then you need to follow my instructions and follow everything that I have posted for those dealing with Canine Distemper.

I am dealing with experts at the Mayo Clinic and also with my VET Doctor who has saved over 600 dogs from Canine Distemper himself.

Right now hit the phone book and look up for the Agriculture Department and ask them where the nearest place you can get Newcastles Disease Virus Vaccine. Get 3 vials minimum. Depending on the weight of that dog you might need more. It is not expensive. Each vial holds up to 3.0cc or for a 30 pound dog or 66kg. Make sure you have one extra one to do the CSF tap injection which will have to be done 7 days later.

Once you get it keep it cold and get that in the dog ASAP, and if you have to travel back keep it cold till you begin to use it.. Make sure you have someone who has knowledge of medicine such as a nurse that can insert needles if you have never done it before.

So go under the topic right now, read it and get it printed out. Everything you need to know and to understand is quite plain and simple. I avoided putting medical jumbo into the subject of the Cure, because most lay people do not understand its terms.

I will be watching for your future posts.
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Re: My on going Distemper story

Post a new topicby Daveyo on Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:59 am

Geno, on the post of the Cure for Distemper, the virus is very hard to detect and the only positive way and most accurate way is documented right in the beginning of the subject of the cure. Any other means or tests will not tell you. To detect Parvo you need to do a stool smear and have it checked for the disease. Cure for Parvo is Tamiflu and IV and it will take about 3-4 days. Parvo also destroys the bone marrow completely. Just to let you know in the future if you encounter parvo. You must get that Tamiflu and IV into the dog as soon as it is discovered.

Distemper on the other hand its primary attack is the nervous system of the dog, and it is the most destructive of all the viruses. Distemper can be cured. Only Rabies has no cure and its primary purpose and attack is the brain itself, and Parvovirus can be cured and its primary attack is the bone marrow and the gastro-intestinal tract of the animals, and of course me and the Mayo and the Doctor VET of mine are working more on Distempers after effects and MS problems as well.

Canine Distemper = MEASLES = MS in human patients = the very same virus. Go figure.

So for now, NDV is your one and only saviour to stop Canine Distemper dead on its tracks both for body and brain.
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Re: My on going Distemper story

Post a new topicby Geno on Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:35 pm

Hi Daveyo

Wow ! what can I say, but thank you for your detailed explaination. I'm stuned by this. My problem is now this, I have been following the normal proceedure for treatment of distemper at the advise of 2 well repected vets here in China. One being a Proffesor of Vetinary medicine. I have researched it on the inetrnet day and night for the last 2 weeks and I have never seen an other single report that states NDV will cure Distemper.

With the absolute greatest respect to you and again thank you for your kindness in helping me, but i'm sure you can agree. How can I truly believe that pumping my dog with NDV is going to cure him?

Now I know what your going to say, "Well, take my advise or not" and believe me, I want to. BUT be honest if you posted on a forum for the first time and a complete stranger told you about a miricle cure, that appartently no one else in the world has ever heard of. Would you believe them?

I have checked the Mayo Clinic website and again there is no mension of NDV curing Distemper that I can find. You say you are working with your DOCTOR VET and he has cured over 600 dogs of Distemper. Who is he, I'm sure you would not mind if I contacted him to varify your claims. Or at least give me some other refference to back up your claim.

I am not a vet or a doctor, so of course I am sceptical about a miricle cure for a conditition that ever one else in the world says there is no cure for. Add to this the fact that I own a internet development company so one thing I do know is how much rubbish there is on the internet.

I see this site is moderated by a string of vets and animal doctors, can any of them varify your claims?

Please don't take offence from my sceptisim, but come on, like I said before, would you pump your dog full of a drug without having any clue what it could do, on the say so of a stranger on the internet?

I'm sure you would not.

I would administer this treatment in a heart beat if I could confirm that it wont damage him further.

I awaite your responce.

Thank you

Geno

PS: with reagrds to your advise about waiting 2 monthes before bringing a dog into our home before, you are of course correct, but just to make it clear. Our first puppy who dided, was in our house for 2 hours and he had Parvo NOT Distemper and after we through away everything he had touched and bleached our home from top to bottom.

We bought all new puppy housing, food bowls and toys. Also bleached our cloths and shoes. So we prevented as best we could. But you are right we should have waited longer, I agree. However that has nothing to do with our present situation at all because the other pup was complethy Distemper free.
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Re: My on going Distemper story

Post a new topicby Daveyo on Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:33 pm

Hi Geno

Granted you have your doubts. I too was the very same like you and the life of my dogs in balance it pushed me to an end that making such decision was either go or no go. I chose to believe and this belief and the gamble did in fact save the lives of my dogs.

You are more than welcomed to and that You may contact a Doctor named Doctor Sears at [moderator note: e-mail address has been removed] to verify everything I said here. He knows me.

There is a site of which I believe will also tell you more about him and of his qualifications as being a retired registered VET in the USA. He also has a practice in Lancaster California, and now others are working for him there. Doctor Sears is retired and travels around nowadays, but does keep in contact with people who have Distemper problems.

The site that I am referring to is the following

http://www.edbond.com/distemper.html

Also Geno, I had 5 dogs that got infected with Canine Distemper. I lost one of them when Dino reached the chewing gum stage which I discovered too late. I also lost my dear Toni, of OLD DOG but she was cured of this disease in the body, of which I could not find a VET to do the CSF and she died on my lap.

I have the three remaining other Canine Distemper Survivors here with me all doing well and out of the 3, 2 of them had the CSF and has responded positively to the brain against OLD DOG. Today they are still alive and doing fine. The third dog named Mikey, I was most fortunate to catch him inside the 4-6 day window, and the NDV saved his life as well.

Yes I was also in the beginning a very sceptical person and was also very desperate to save the 3rd generation of my Doxies. My Doxies were infected in beginning August of 2007, and if it was not for the NDV all my 3rd generation of Doxies would have been dead by now since it is nearly December 2007. The Canine Distemper Disease kills most dogs 99% of them by end of 30 days from onset of the infection. So technically all my dogs would have been dead in September of 2007.

I too searched the internet all over the place and stumbled upon Mr. Bonds site. Thank God for him. It was thru this site that led me to my new found friend Dr. Sears. Ever since then we have been in contact quite a bit discussing all about Distemper and how to really refine this cure process. It was thru me that I made official contact to the Mayo Clinic because many other doctors do not want to jeopardize their hypthesis and funds and recognition. Therefore many Doctors have this hidden creed to not get involved between each other.

So I am the in between person in all this.

I felt compelled to also publish this in this site as well in my efforts to help save other peoples dogs. I am a personal witness to this cure, have 4 Government Doctors who also witnessed this cure on the body and it is documented, have 2 top specialists in a University Hospital who also have this documented and another VET who did the CSF and such is recorded, and is also another witnesses plus other people who are well aware of my problem of the Distemper Disease and they too have witnessed their recovery as well.

I myself hate this Disease with such a passion because of its destructiveness and of what it does to the dogs it definitely is the most horrible experience anyone can have in their life. This disease is so deadly I can only wish that it be eradicated from this planet. I love my Doxies, and I have 12 of them. 3 are Canine Distemper survivors. Skippy, Charlie and Mikey. They are the big three for me now. What I went thru with Toni I will never ever forget and I promised myself never to let this happen again to any of my dogs.

Yes, I had to take the chance and had to force myself to believe in Dr. Sears and the cure method because of three basic reasons. Dr. Sears is a registered license VET in the USA, and has an official Hospital in California under his name, and that speaks for itself, because it is very difficult to be a Doctor in USA. Secondly Dr. Sears alternative method of such cure is most plausible and made the most common sense since we are dealing with a very highly contagious and deadly virus and herbal products and the other means of holistic methods elsewhere are crap and have no effect. Third I wanted to save my dogs life no matter how much I had to do just to save them. I devoted myself and believe in life.

That is why I decided to trust Dr. Sears. Today I have made him my dogs personal VET Doctor. Nobody else.

His undying passion to save dogs is unprecedented. He has cured well over 600 dogs and has many testimonials, and official documents to prove it, plus many many other dog owners over the course of time and Mr. Bond himself is one of them too, who also is trying his best to inform the public as well.

Dr. Sears does not care to have recognition or fame or anything else. He just wants to save the DOGS while others watch them die. He has nothing to gain, but to see the happy faces and the love others have to their dogs, but from me he has gained not only my total respect, but honor to him and my trust. I myself is a type of person who is very hard to be convinced let alone want to trust anyone. Well Dr. Sears has my total trust and my belief in him is without question. I have no doubts of this man and he is as genuine as can be and he is also a very straight up type of individual.

The Mayo Clinic has posted in their news forum about the cure to MS regarding the re-mylenation of the Spinal cord particuarly in humans regarding the MS.

Look up under MS from the Mayo Clinic. The symptoms are exactly the same as in dogs -> the only difference is the incredible speed this disease does on dogs and how fast it spreads. It is like moving time to a faster rate.

Keep in mind the MS in humans is the very exact same disease as Canine Distemper, and this disease is called MEASLES.

MEASLES not only kills dogs, but also kills humans, with over 30,000 a year in Africa alone, and also causes the MS in humans.

In dogs, this disease is accelerated so fast the dogs are hit with it very rapidly and this kills them in about 30-35 day time frame. In humans when they get this disease it takes 20-25 years for it to show up with the same symptoms.

Thus it strikes many in their middle age. The disease had been progressing for 20-25 years before finally the damage begins in their cerebral cavity at the base of the skull where the spine and brain connect, and sends the humans to the doctors to find out what is wrong with them and why and only to find out that the diagnosis is MS>

You will not see any kind of report of a Cure of Distemper, because I have tried and so has Dr. Sears to get this published in the Medical Journals. We keep getting shot down like swiss cheese. Fortunately maybe perhaps we might get lucky soon to get it in the Journals. Keep your fingers crossed.

I am not a person who professes to have all the knowledge or expertise. I do recognize the danger of having too much knowledge, but I also keep it in check and respect the knowledge.

Under the cure for Distemper, ->>>>> That is straight from Doctor Sears. I put it in such a way the same but made for other people to understand it better.

THEREFORE I MADE THE POSTINGS HERE BECAUSE OF THE KNOWLEDGE I GAINED AND WAS TAUGHT FROM DOCTOR SEARS, I FELT COMPELLED MYSELF TO HOPEFULLY HELP OTHERS SAVE THEIR DOGS and TO SPREAD THE MESSAGE OF HOPE TO OTHERS THAT THERE IS A CURE AGAINST CANINE DISTEMPER.

THIS IS DONE IN THE MEMORY OF DINO AND TONI MY PRECIOUS TWO DOXIES WHO HAVE FALLEN FROM THIS DISEASE of which I could not save them in time.
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