Canine Distemper

[Tugger]

Hi everybody I posted here yesterday with the belief that my buddy Tug was infected with Canine distemper It turns out that he is not, he had all the classic symptoms with the exception of fever. I was going crazy trying to find someone willing to follow Daveyo's prescribed treatment for distemper
No one in my area has even heard of Brush Border smears and they all act like you are crazy if you ask for Newcastle Disease Virus Vaccine (NDV). I did get hold of a Vet in Washington state who said that he had heard of using NDV for treatment that had been tried about 15 years ago but he says that it did not pan out and it has been dropped due to ineffectiveness.
He did tell me however that there is a test that is 90% accurate and it is called Immunoflourecent Antibodies test or IFA for short. It seems no one uses this Brush Border test (I don't know why). I hope this helps, the only other thing I can tell you is that as Daveyo says there is a whole slew of things that mimic Distemper Trying to find out what your animal has may be an expensive and heart rending trial and error journey.

[Daveyo]

Tugger not exactly. That Brush Border smear done with quick dip is gold standard for VETS. Also with over 600 cases of confirmed Acute Canine Distemper NDV does save the dogs and stops the virus dead on its tracks in 24-48 hours in the body.

Of course your going to hear many tell you this all over the place. Welcome to the doubters club and the crucifiers so to speak. That VET in Washington State did admit it is around, but he will not tell you that it works -WHY because of the threat of lawyers and lawsuits and no one wants to openly publish or say this out to the public. He has a license and does not want to lose it. Unfortunately many VETS feel the same. It is not written in the medical journals at the moment. Understand.

Well I am about to change all this within the next 20 months. Once the reports are all put together, and we got over 600 to do here, case by case, and gather all the proof together, I will make the official announcement that will knock the Journal off the maps >>all on T.V, and newspapers including the possible cure for MS. Also as of the license I not have to worry either. I am safe in that department.

How is that for a start. I am not joking either. I got myself 3 dogs with this Disease and was out of the Serum and used the NDV and they are very much alive with confirmed Acute Canine Distemper including it breaching the CNS as well. Technically speaking these dogs would have been dead already in October of 2007 and now it is what January. Go figure.

The other Diseases do mimic Canine Distemper. Trust me. Many VETS have claimed that they have cured Canine Distemper using antibiotics and holistic approaches only to find out later the animal never had Canine Distemper to begin with and are totally stumped by that discovery. Even dogs that are fully vaccinated still get the Canine Distemper disease because the virus mutated to a different strain. They won't believe it being possible, yet VIRUS ALWAYS CAN MUTATE TO DIFFERENT STRAINS.

If you don't believe me then go and see a dog with real Canine Distemper showing hardening of the pads, the goop in the eyes and nose hardening, and the character of withdrawal, and having soupy stools and lack of eating and drinking. Then inject this into them and come back 48 hours later. They will show you no signs of this disease FEVER IS GONE. and more likely it breached the blood brain barrier of which you will then see the seizures happen eventually. The dogs stools will return back to normal, the goop probably will remain due to tear duct damage, and the hardening of the pads cannot be fixed and will have walking problems. The rest the dog will be normal again body wise and character wise. The seizures when it comes will occur without warning and these seizures is a death sentence meaning the dog will die within 14 days or less.

There you go, the fever was not high and I assume that is what your saying. Good and I am happy for you, so therefore he had something else which mimics the real McCoy Distemper. Now you see what I am saying?????

That is why you have to first eliminate all the other possibles that are involved. Yes heart rendering and possibly expensive no argument there. But it has to be done to get the correct diagnosis.

You went nuts, and of course rightfully so because your dog is special to you. I tried my best to help you, and your lucky that as you say right now no distemper since no NDV can be found.

Like I said when time I make that official announcement to the world and to the press, heads are going to roll all over the place. They will try to shoot it down, but with my solid proof, no chance it will happen. Facts are facts, proof is proof and that is all the public needs to know. Watch what happens when the people who have MS wants to be cured, what will the doctors do then?????

I am going to break down the darn barrier to bits that prevents people from telling others that there are cures to the diseases. You have not encountered the barrier, and it will be revealed to the people which I believe they deserve a chance to have a second life and a chance to be cured and the same for the dogs as well. Most of all return back to normal and enjoy life as we have it today. Once you expire it is gone forever.

If I don't do this it will be another 100 years before they can figure this all out. How many will die needlessly between now and that time????

Anyway I am glad for you and your dog. Good luck.

[Tugger]

I was not disagreeing with anything you said, just sharing my experiences and findings. Trust me I share your frustration with "The Establishment" It pisses me off no end to have one of them stick their nose in the air and treat you like an idiot because you did not go to medical school.
You tell a medico you got info off the I-net and they laugh at you, literally. I asked a local vet about holistic treatments, and her actually held his hand up to signal me to stop and said "I went to medical school, I studied MEDICINE not holistic healing!" As if they are two seperate worlds! Holistic healing was around long before ,modern medicine and was effectual then why would it not have effective results now? If you had access to something that compliments and increases results of what you already know, why would you not use it?

It is as though these hard heads checked their common sense at the door when they went to school!
I frequently walk into a docs office having read as much as possible about the particular malaise I am dealing with knowing more about it than they do, do they treat as a partner in treatment and add their knowledge to mine in a cooperative manner to attempt qucik and effective cure? Hell NO!
They get pissy and let me know in no uncertain terms that they went to medical school and therefore they are smarter and better than I am.

I do not trust Medico's, I hate it when I have to use them Animal or human. They are human just like you and I and therefore limited in their knowledge and abilities just like you and I.

I wish you the best my friend! I sincerely hope that you are right and that you stand the Medical world on it's ear and get the respect you deserve. ANd more importantly that what you are studying cures the diseases you mentioned. Life has enough pain for us without dealing with a debilitating disease. Tally HO Daveyo!

[Daveyo]

Congrats you just had a taste of what is involved in getting just NDV. Now think what is involved in just publishing this in the journals.

Oh mannnnnnnnnnn

Its like this - Researchers in the field in the human side do not like to hear anything good coming from someone on the field side of VETS. Protocols are in place. They hate one upmanship. They consider themselves the cream of the crop. Maybe rightfully so cause they may be smarter and of course have all the equipment to make such possible in getting the answers.

Where as the lower class of VETS in the field are looked upon as wanna bees, and you said it, they stick up their noses and say hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmpffffffffff.

However my friend, it turns out most of the vaccines that were discovered and that we use today came from FIELD DOCTORS.

Not one researcher to this day made a real discovery except maybe for stem cell and just recently a generic form of antibody to get myelin repaired.

So the ships sails on. I cannot wait till it reaches the dock!!!!!!

Once this gets out, I am going to tell them where to park it. In my bank account.

The best thing out of all this is >>>>>>> is for the people who are suffering mercifully and the dogs as well.

So first priority will be for the animals. Then the humans will come second. Why, because they snuffed us before so the snuffing is being returned. Watch the pressure they will get coming from all sorts of people with big money.

Did you know that it costs 2 million dollars to do one research on antibody!!!!!!! per year. Just one measley antibody or virus fact finding and tests. Where do you think all that money is coming from????

Fortunately I am not one of the Harvard Medical protege' They do not own me.

Anyway thanks for your input. Do post here if you see any changes take place. So watch your dog carefully for the next 3 months. Don't ask me to explain it to you. Just watch and observe. Distemper is very sneaky.

By the way there are 4 new distemper strains now out spreading. One new very deadly strain of Parvo which is strain F. This one kills the dog inside of 6 hours with rapid dehydration after infection 3 hours later. Basically you have only 1-2 hours max to get that dog treated and the temperature climbs to 107 to 108 the very first hour!!!!!!!! Even more than Distemper. They have no vaccine for it, and it is FATAL, but guess who does have the remedy for it!!!!!! You got it!!!!! This all came after the original diseases were first discovered.

Talk to you later.

[stulchinsky]

Congrats you just had a taste of what is involved in getting just NDV. Now think what is involved in just publishing this in the journals.

Oh mannnnnnnnnnn

Its like this - Researchers in the field in the human side do not like to hear anything good coming from someone on the field side of VETS. Protocols are in place. They hate one upmanship. They consider themselves the cream of the crop. Maybe rightfully so cause they may be smarter and of course have all the equipment to make such possible in getting the answers.

Where as the lower class of VETS in the field are looked upon as wanna bees, and you said it, they stick up their noses and say hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmpffffffffff.

However my friend, it turns out most of the vaccines that were discovered and that we use today came from FIELD DOCTORS.

Not one researcher to this day made a real discovery except maybe for stem cell and just recently a generic form of antibody to get myelin repaired. ...

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[wamba]

Hola, my name is Stacy Marie Rivera. Im currently in Puerto Rico. I adopted two pups at a nearby shelter, Elecktra and Luna. I'm sorry if I'm not suppose to post anything here but I don't know how to contact Daveyo and I need help. I had to put down Elecktra just two days ago due to distemper. I had her seperated from Luna but it seems that Luna was infected regardless. I began to frantically search for information and came across this site on the web. I read dozens of posts to and from Daveyo regarding a cure for distemper I reasearched the NDV and told my vet about it. He was very skeptical and dismissed my information but I bagered him to the point that he called the USDA and Dr. Sears. Turns out that the word is starting to spread about the vaccine and my vet is curious about the vaccine and is more than willing to test it on my Luna.
The problem is that the clock is ticking and I need to find a healthy dog and a willing owner to produce the serum that will hopefully save Luna. She in the beginning stages and has no signs of neurological problems as of yet. Please I need help. I'll do absolutely anything, whatever the cost, to save Luna.

[Daveyo]

I believe I have answered your other post and go to that post.


Calm down and do as I instructed you. You will do just fine if you follow it carefully.

Daveyo