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Post a new topicby codyowner on Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:44 pm

I just adopted a 1 1/2 year old border collie mix last week. He appears to have chewing-gum fits. I took him to the vet today and he told me that it would go away with time. Does anyone else have a dog that does this? Cody does it constantly. When he sleeps he sort of jerks around with his breaths. I am very worried for him and do not want him to die. Is he going to die? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!!!
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Re: chewing-gum fits

Post a new topicby Daveyo on Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:03 am

Hi I am Daveyo

Find some NDV fast and get that dog to a VET to do an emergency body and NDV-CSF tap. Remember for the CSF tap the VET must do based on the size of the dog. Based on what you have said here this dog is fully grown so go based on breed size.

This would mean it is a medium to large size dog. You would need to get to my site as quickly as possible to copy and print down all of it under both the Body proceedure and the NDV-CSF Canine Distemper Medical protocols and proceedures. Go to [moderator note: website address has been removed] and register yourself and go quickly as instructed. Copy and then print it out and run to the VET fast. First do the body injection based on the weight of the dog. You have to get rid of the disease in the body. Then after that is done then do the NDV-CSF tap immediately. NDV will not cross the blood brain barrier. It has to be done manually and that is via a tap.

If the VET does everything as given, then treat the dog for pneumonia precisely as given for 7 days of Baytril and Penicillin G of 0.5cc Baytril and 1.0cc of Penicillin G mixed together and given intramuscularly and twice a day (every 12 hours). This will take care of the pneumonia itself and its breathing problems.

If you do as I told you here, you have a decent chance to save your dog hopefully on time. If not, severe neurological damage will occur and it will be very tough for it to recover.

Stay in touch here and I will be watching for you and your posts. Don't waste any time, that disease is moving fast.

If you do all I have said here, then we will deal and discuss with you the recovery prospects and what to expect as well.

Daveyo
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Re: chewing-gum fits

Post a new topicby white shadow on Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:30 pm

I hope all is well with your dog, and if not I hate to bother you, but could you explain what the "chewing" looks and sounds like? My dog is starting to "smack" his lips together occasionally, mainly after he eats. It doesn't appear that he's chewing, just smacking. I don't know if this is the same or if it may be a precursor for what's to come~ Thank You
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Re: chewing-gum fits

Post a new topicby Daveyo on Mon Oct 27, 2008 4:41 am

Ok chewing gum in the air fit

When your dog is sitting around or standing around and not from drinking or eating and is acting quite obviously like they are chewing some gum then you know for certain it is Distemper of the last stage. Shortly thereafter in about 12 hours, comes the seizures and it gets really nasty from that point on which is very late to save the dog. Cannot save it via NDV because it takes minimum of 12 hours for the Dx to work and do the cytokine storm in the system and you have to do both the body and the CSF at the same time if that animal is to have any chance. At chewing gum stage- yes 50-50 you can save the dog in time, but no guarantee. Once it hits that seizure stage 12 hours later give or take, it is too late. Definite death sentence. At this point then put it to sleep and say good bye to your dear friend.

Like for example a human when they chew bubble gum chomp chomp chomp blow it up and pop. OK. Same thing only the difference is this dog does not have chewing gum in the mouth. It is very obvious indeed.

In your case smacking of lips after eating or drinking is fine. Normal. Nothing to worry OK.

This is the best way to describe it to you.

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Re: chewing-gum fits

Post a new topicby white shadow on Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:39 am

Thank you Daveyo. I am much relieved and will now try to relax!!
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Re: chewing-gum fits

Post a new topicby zebob1910 on Thu Jan 01, 2009 5:33 pm

Hi, I adopted one dog that has the same simptons of your dog, and he shakes his legs when he sleeps and trembling head, one of his eyes change color and he was diagnosed with canine distemper. He got worse when I got vacinacions on him. Now I put him on a diet I learned from the book " The nature animal healing, Dr. Martin Goldstein and he lives well since 2005, his name is Duke. Now I adopeted another one, he was abandoned and lived in streets. He has the same simptons( his name is Zebob) and I learned that without vacinations, without drugs, and low protein diet he lives well too, but I need to nutter him and I am very concerned about this. I don't know if can be good or worse his simptons. I hope I helped you, sorry my mistakes I lived now in Brazil and not praticing english frequently.Bye.Janine
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Re: chewing-gum fits

Post a new topicby Giftbearer on Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:33 am

Hi Zebob1910,

If it is Distemper that doesn't just go away. Many vets are misinformed. I hope you are still reading and that your dog is still alive. I didn't see this post until tonight, but maybe you still have time to save him. Gum-chewing and spasms are signs that the virus has gone to the brain. It is harder to treat at that stage, but it's worth a try.

My dog, Carmella has been saved with NDV. Has your vet done either antibody titre tests from various smears or a Brush Border smear (the most reliable test for the disease)? This is real, but you will have to really advocate on behalf of your dog. Please don't give up (whatever some vets may tell you).

Carmella was suspected of having the disease for at least 20 days before she received even the body portion of the treatment, and then it took about 2 1/2 more months for me to find a vet to do the neuro part of the treatment, and it did stop any further disease-progression. She is left with some jerking which may or may not resolve (we aren't sure yet and there are not enough treated cases yet to have that kind of data. She's the first here in the US to have both parts of the treatment).

Dr. Sears (the originator of the treatment) has recently started his own website and has updated the process slightly from previous versions. You can print out the instructions (found under the section "For Vets") and bring or fax them to your vet.
http://www.treatment4distemper.com/

Daveyo's site is at:
http://www.caninedistemperproboards60.com/index.cgi

And here's another new site on Facebook just recently started by Ed Bond to organize people with Distemper dogs:
[moderator note: website address has been removed]

I have a blog documenting my dog's struggle with Distemper and success with NDV:
[moderator note: website address has been removed]

I'm working on linking all these sites so that people looking for help can easily get in contact with all the help they can get as quickly as possible.

I hope you are able to get your vet on board with this. If you run into any problems let us know. Be sure to get in touch with Dr. Sears (post at his website forum) ASAP. You may need him to talk to your vet directly.

Sincerely,

Pippit
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Re: chewing-gum fits

Post a new topicby Daveyo on Sun Jan 18, 2009 3:20 am

Hi

Follow Pips advisory as I am dealing with a serious medical crisis ICU for the past week and will continue for another week most likely.

If you need further assistance, she will let me know

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