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Canine distemper; should I Use the NDV shot ??

Post a new topicby romerin on Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:58 pm

I got a puppy, is a labrador of about 7 weeks and last week she got her fist vaccine (canigen MHA2 puppy) shot. The next day she started to have what the vet called initial symptoms for distemper (fever, eye and nose discharge) , They performed a blood and lab for the eye discharge and the result was positive for distemper Her blood test shows :

Unit Result Range Observation
hematocrit L/L 0.27 0.37-0.55 Low
erythrocytes X1012/L 3.7 5.5-8.5 Low
hemoglobin g/L 91 120-180 Low
Protein g/L 44 60-75 Low
leucocytes X109/L 21 6-17 High
neutrophils X109/L 14.7 3-11.5 High
Monocyte X109/L 2.4 0-1.4 High

She is still eating, without dirrea or Pneumonia. The vet advice to wait and see how does she react before put her to sleep. But I´m concern about the second stage where my dog might develop encephalomyelitis that is progresive and my dog will suffer and then die.

I have seen the use of Newcastle virus vaccine in dogs to treat them , which was developed for chickens?? I´m about to give her the NDV shot cause i believe she is still in the 4 to 6 window and would like to know : What comsecuences will my dog have if I use the procedure? Has it been reliable? Do I have to make both steps (Cause i do not want her to suffer afterwards)
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Re: Canine distemper; should I Use the NDV shot ??

Post a new topicby romerin on Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:05 am

Can someone answer please, or can I contact Daveyo or Dr. Sears contact my VET for the procedure ?? please I´m running out of time and I do really want to save my puppy!
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Re: Canine distemper; should I Use the NDV shot ??

Post a new topicby Daveyo on Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:02 pm

Hi I am Daveyo

OK if the signs confirm, then get the NDV because you are within the 6 day window. Go to my site and look up the NDV Locator, and it is there where you can order it and have it sent to you overnight express via FED Ex. Pay the extra shipping.

Have the VET do the body injection immediately, based on the weight of the dog. It is 0.1cc for every pound. If between the weights add another 0.1cc Ok

Inject directly into the blood vein. It does come with diluent.

My site is [moderator note: website address has been removed] and here you can register and get the order of the NDV done pronto. There is a phone number there and the site also. You can get it shipped to you direct. Go to NDV locator OK. Then read up the medical protocol which is there, and have your VET follow it precisely. Also you can read up on the data as well.

Also Distemper brings on Pneumonia, so you have to treat this as well for 7 days straight of Baytril of 0.5cc mixed with Penicillin G 1.0cc intramuscular injection. Do it at the rear, and alternate the spots OK.. Must be done every 12 hours or two times a day. 7 days straight and this will take care of that problem. Give the first injection right after you give the NDV. It will not interfere with the NDV at all.

The cure takes 24 hours body wise, and inside the 24 hours somewhere around the 12th hour the virus is destroyed.


I did read your lab results all is pointing to distemper.

You can write to me here or at my site

Been very busy lately so sorry for not being here the past few days.

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Re: Canine distemper; should I Use the NDV shot ??

Post a new topicby Daveyo on Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:01 am

Hi me again

Ok to help you understand the hematocrit indicates ongoing Pneumonia associated with Distemper
The Leococytes indicate ongoing infection of which your dog is now fighting off the disease also known as the WBC
The Erythrocytes is your red blood cell count indicating the spaces being packed a bit too much regarding it being low.

The protein indicates you not giving enough meat or too much dry food. Give more meat and potatoes to help the dog. Potatoes goes well with the animal.

All signs of this lab report of what you gave me indicate Distemper is ongoing and present.

Get that NDV in that dogs body ASAP to avoid the next phase of this disease heading to the CNS. If this happens then you have to do the CSF tap to stop that disease inside the CNS Ok

Keep me posted and get inside that 6 day window OK Do it now.

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Re: Canine distemper; should I Use the NDV shot ??

Post a new topicby Daveyo on Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:49 am

Hi Romerin

Ok since I got the other information out for you, here is what I think happened and it is just a guess.

Your Lab apparently did not have the maternal antibodies in its system, so ? Number 1 is why??

Secondly your dog is weeks old, border line for NDV

Third, the vaccine your dog got from the VET induced this disease and it went full blown because of lack of antibodies (maternal) inside that dog and that Modified Live Parvo Vaccine opened up the blood brain barrier and POW. Therefore when the shot was given, there was no line of defense and the viruses especially Distemper mixed with Parvo together had a free for all arena in the blood stream and BANG it happened. Your dog did not even have a memory snapshot of that virus at all.

Now I ask that you pay attention to me especially and really it is up to you, but obviously your VET is going to kill that dog as I see written here, so if you want to save your animal and have it cured then you have to at least follow my instructions and tell that VET to listen to me as well.

After you give the NDV shot to the body, the disease virus will be gone in about 12 hours itself, and your dog will be fully cured body wise in 24 hours as it works thru the entire body.

Next you need to take care of that Pneumonia ASAP and give the required shots that I told you to do. Once that is done your pretty much out of the woods against this disease provided you follow my instructions and act fast OK

Next, you do not give this dog of yours any VACCINE shots at all that contains MODIFIED LIVE PARVO OR DISTEMEPER. Stay away from it.

Once your dog has the NDV it will be immuned against Distemper for life having titers of 1/1600 or so give or take. You will not need to ever give your dog a distemper shot ever again. OK

Secondly in staying away from Modified Live Parvo, this concept causes a reaction to the dog itself because it opens up the blood brain barrier for 10 days approximately and it also reacts to NDV. This reaction will definitely cause seizures to take place.

So stay away from Modified Parvo Vaccine for the life of this animal.

You can use Killed Parvo Vaccine and it is in my site where you can obtain it and it is safe to use and you may give this to the dog 6 months from now. Again when you give the Parvo shot give only half dose and wait 21 days, and then give the other dose, and make sure it is NOT COMBINED WITH THE OTHER VACCINES!!!!! This is to be given completely all by itself. OK

Third, from here on out when you give the other shots for hemo, influenza, corona, bordetella etc, (forget my spelling sometimes) and Rabies, you can give these 2 months from now, in 1/2 doses and not the full dose these VETS give to the animals.

First you give half dose to the dog and wait 14-18 days, then you give the second dose and this dog receives one full shot total. You have to do this at least 2 times rather than the full one dose shot, since your animal cannot sustain the full shot and it's immune system is now shot to hell because of the vaccine induced outbreak. OK

After you give all the required shots, 2 total shots should keep you out of trouble wait for a year and repeat for the booster. After that booster, then give once every 3 years. OK..

You do the same for Rabies and all the rest. No DISTEMPER OR MODIFIED PARVO ever again. You tell this to the VET I said so, and if he has an argument then tell him to argue to a researcher who knows full well about this disease and what that vaccine does to animals.
Ok

Dr. Sears has a success rate batting average of 99% with over 600 cases saved animals, and the same batting average for me concerning the CNS.

If you per se by chance end up being outside the 6 day window, let me know pronto. The body will be cured but after 6 days that virus made its way to the CNS. So this means you have to have a NDV-CSF tap to be done to get rid of it in the CNS. NDV will not cross or breach the blood brain barrier and this has to be given manually. Not a problem as I have VETS lined up to do this procedure for you if you need it done.

Last of all once NDV is given to the animal for the body and once it is given to the animal in the CNS you CANNOT EVER GIVE NDV again. It is a one way ticket to ride only. One time only deal. If you give it the second time to the body or to the CNS, you will have a immune cascade problem which will eventually kill the dog itself since its immune system is not designed like the chickens have themselves.

Therefore right now it is in raw form full strength NDV which works extremely very well against Canine Distemper in wiping this disease out in record time. Hopefully someday in the future some drug company will modify this vaccine and make one specific for Distemper only to save animals from that disease should they catch it. Until this happens, this medical protocol stays intact and will not be alterated for any reason. OK

Keep me posted

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