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Anyone out there with a dog LIVING with Distemper??

Post a new topicby scrubbyfrog on Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:41 pm


I have read many of Daveyo's posts. I have looked up the Sears Serum ad nauseum. Everything points to the serum or using NDV vaccine as a hoax. I am desperate. We have had a dog for about a month. Numerous visits to the vet, diagnosed with "respiratory infection" and given multiple antibiotics. Still my fabulous dog has virtually no energy and is seemingly getting worse. My trusted vet (who we didn't go to because he isn't close) said without a doubt that she has distemper. The hardened foot pads and nose were the icing on the cake. His explanation was that she could pull through, or get worse. I am not seeing any posts or reports of dogs living with distemper though I have seen lots of posts saying they CAN. So, if anyone can give me any info, I would be grateful.

Here is my timeline and what has been happening with my dog.
March 15th- adopted 8 month old border collie mix from animal shelter, not spayed, no vaccines
March 17th- seen at a clinic for shots, had low grade fever, no shots given. wasn't impressed with this clinic, so found another one
March 18th- seen at a different clinic, had low grade fever, told of sneezing when outside, and one bout of vomitting in the car after travel to other vet. Shots given. Told to return in a week for spay.
March 25th- seen again at clinic #2, for cough and sneezing and nasal drainage. Given Clavamox and Baytril and rescheduled spay for the following week.
Over the next weekend, the dog had LOTS of nasal discharge- GROSS- still coughing, no sneezing
April 3rd- took in for spay, nasal drainage better, still with cough- not as much. Vet called us back to get her, her respiratory stuff wasn't better, given cephalexin and eye ointment for eye discharge.
During all these trips to the vet, noticed dog was sliding around on my leather seats, so I bought a rug for her to sit on to keep from sliding around.
Over this weekend, noticed a smell from her ears.
April 7th- back to same vet. looked in ears and found an infection. I was upset that her ears hadn't been looked at before- lucky me, didn't get charged for the visit- got an ear wash, nose cleaning for all the "crusty boogers"- put on ear drops.
April 11th- really not getting better, still with nasal crusty-ness and blockage. got records faxed to my old vet and seen. His first thought was distemper after reading over the records, after looking over the dog (with a 104+ temp for the first time- all other visits were low 102) and seeing her hard nose and foot pads (which is why she was sliding everywhere!) DEFINITELY distemper. Gave her a dex and baytril shot and was told to continue other antibiotics. Still has bad respiratory infection as evidenced by the vet listening to her lungs.
Evening of April 11th and during 12th- playful dog, kids loving it, looks like she feels great. I know this won't last, per vet precaution.

Of course, feeling like this was a death sentence, came home and got on the net to see what was really going on. Still don't feel much better.
Today, April 13th, dog is more listless, acting really tired and depressed. Not following us around much and more stuff in her nose today. Still eating and drinking. Never had any vomiting or diarrhea. No twitching or "gum chewing" but not acting at all dog like.

Anyone else going through this or gone through this???
I want a cure!!! A real fix I can get from a vet that makes sense. I have seen Daveyo's post for the NDV vaccine, but the numbers don't work out for the dose. Can you give the vaccine without doing all the tests? Can you give the vaccine without also giving it in the CSF- an LP seems a bit much to put a sick dog through. If my dogs lives with distemper is she always contagious? Can she be around other dogs without infecting them???

Help!
I want to hear of a story with a happy ending. I want MY story to have a happy ending.

Anyone???

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Re: Anyone out there with a dog LIVING with Distemper??

Post a new topicby roby on Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:37 am

Hi,
you have nothing to lose. Your dog will die anyway with the treatment you're doing now. In a week or so.
Get that NDV and try Daveyo's cure. I lost a dog last week right when I was ready to do that NDV. Now I feel guilty.
Go for it TODAY.
Best wishes for you and your dog.

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Re: Anyone out there with a dog LIVING with Distemper??

Post a new topicby scrubbyfrog on Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:53 am


I would try Daveyo's treatment, but I can't find anything out there with a dosage that makes sense. The only one I can find is the 1cc per 1 pound or 2.2 kg- that math doesn't work. Also, trying to find a vet to do it has been impossible so far in the Dallas area.

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Re: Anyone out there with a dog LIVING with Distemper??

Post a new topicby scrubbyfrog on Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:07 am

Ok, looked again and found the treatment that makes sense. But still have the problem of finding a vet to do it. I am leaning toward homeopathic vet medicine, but having a hard time getting into them.

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Re: Anyone out there with a dog LIVING with Distemper??

Post a new topicby roby on Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:37 am


that was a typo 1 pound = 2,2 kg.
1 pound = 0,45 kg

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Re: Anyone out there with a dog LIVING with Distemper??

Post a new topicby Daveyo on Thu Apr 17, 2008 6:46 am

Scrubby

I am Daveyo

I read your post. Confirmed Canine Distemper You have to get that Newcastles Disease Virus Vaccine right away. Do weigh the dog please and it is 0.1cc for every pound or 0.45kg. I made a typo error awhile back. Cause > fingers!!!!!!

Also be advised you are going to have to do the CSF Tap as well. That virus has already breached the Central Nervous System and it is now doing the damage.

First you have to do the body. When you inject this do it in the blood vein of the dog based on its weight. The cure is rapid and this will kill off the virus between 12-24 hours depending on the genetics of your dog. After this injection your dog will be immuned for life against Distemper so this precludes any further Distemper vaccinations OK.

Next is the CSF Tap. This proceedure requires a VET and he or she has to do it pronto same day as you also give the body injection. I would not waste any further time on this part the same.

This injection goes on the size of a dog. Toys get 0.1cc of NDV, Small breeds get 0.2cc, Medium breeds get 0.3cc and large breeds get 0.4cc and giant dogs get 0.5cc. So please understand this part > it is the size and type of breed of dog that your dog will fall into. Every dog has a category OK.

The table of the proper amounts can be found at my site at www.caninedistemper.proboards60.com. You are welcome to copy this and print it out for your VET to read it carefully. The success rate is quite good. I have two living dogs right now that got the NDV into the CNS, and the virus is killed and they are doing OK and recovering nicely from the extensive damage they got from the virus. I did this injection back end of October of 2007. Without doing this my dogs would have been dead around the middle of November last year.

I am the one who discovered the cure for the CNS. (Central Nervous System) Also Dr. Sears is the one who discovered both the Serum and the NDV for the body and he has saved over 600 dogs to date. On my site I have testimonials to prove all this as well, and more people are also seeing excellent results if all is done properly and correctly and on time!!!!!!

Time is most important. This virus will not stop until you do as I have instructed. What this does to the animal is it puts their immune system into hyper drive and the speed is incredible on how it wipes out the virus. Basically cytokines is the proper name of it. Anyway the same is done in the CNS. After this the dog is also immune against this virus in the CNS. In fact the CNS has more protection than ever before. Also it shuts down the deadly C 4 T cells that the virus started which basically runs wild and destroys even good cells. That is the primary purpose of doing this Tap, and also at the same token kills off the virus. This is precisely what the main objective has always been and we were able to do it MEDICALLY, and not this homeopathic or voodoo stuff. Your dealing with a deadly virus the very same virus that affects humans having MS. Yes I am in touch with the Mayo clinic and the results on the human side is very encouraging and quite promising to say the least. We need more time yet on that aspect.

So please if you want to save your dog go quickly to my site and copy and print everything down for the CSF tap procedure and do that as well and have the VET understand and do it properly. After all this is done then you can relax and follow the rest of the instructions there and let the dog recover.

This virus takes a lot out of the animal, and truly it needs time to recover from such an onslaught.

As of the pads, and the hardening of it, I will instruct you how to get this fixed and have this problem go away. You also need to be very careful concerning the eyes. I hope this virus did not damage the tear duct drainage which does happen a lot. This can be fixed via surgery.

Now after you do the body injection and the CNS tap injection you need to treat this dog with Pneumonia. Pneumonia always comes with Distemper The prescription is for 7 straight days, twice a day. Baytril of 0.5cc and penicillin G of 1.0cc combined and inject intramuscular. This will cure the pneumonia problem. After this your dog will be just fine and it will be healthy again and back to normal and just like you saw before all this happened.

My biggest worry is how much damage this virus did to the CNS. On some dogs a lot, on some dogs not much. It depends on how fast you do the CSF tap and stop this virus. The sooner the better and less damage. Now after the CSF tap is done, this damage will probably really show itself within the next 30 days. By the end of 30 days what you see is what the Distemper virus did to the dog. After about 45 days, then the dog begins its recovery from this damage. That is the results we got. Also if there is damage, you need to give the dog time for it to heal on its own. The body can do a lot of things on its own. OK.

The rest is up to you, and you have to have faith and some belief that this works. I would not say any of this myself unless it is true. What I have said I have spoken and it being true and I do have all the data of proof and lab reports and confirmations and all kinds of evidence attesting to the very fact this virus is killed permanently. Definite medical procedure and nothing else. Also none of this was done at a lab. All this was done at the field live as can be > in others words the REAL McCoy DEAL.

The body cure was discovered about 20 years ago (Dr. Sears). The CNS cure was discovered 6 months ago (Dr. Sears and I). The answers to cure MS has only started now (Mayo Clinic - Dr. Sears - and I).

This is the best I can offer to you and to tell you. The rest is up to you to save your dog and its life. Follow my instructions and your dog lives. Reject me and Dr. Sears and our instructions and your dog will die. My primary purpose is to save dogs and its life. Period. That is my belief as well as Dr. Sears, and we both have been very successful in maintaining a good medical protocol of which VETS can follow.

Daveyo

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Re: Anyone out there with a dog LIVING with Distemper??

Post a new topicby scrubbyfrog on Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:07 am

I do appreciate the instructions but my problem is finding a vet willing to do this without seeing any data/proof that it works. You mentioned your website, but didn't give an address.
Looking all over the internet, I have seen this remedy many times over, but haven't heard/read any story of people who have a dog who have survived this- with or without NDV vaccine.
It doesn't look good. My dog still has no twitches or seizures, but is stumbling at odd times- from just standing to walking across carpet- but runs fine.
The only story I have heard was with one dog (now 91/2 months old) using Vi Pro Plus (homeopathic distemper vaccine/immune boost) and that is the ONLY response I have gotten.
On some other posts, some have questioned the Sears Serum and use of NDV vaccine. I lean that direction, too, only because if this "cure" has been around for 20 years, why is it not widely available and patented? If the NDV vaccine is working so well, why haven't more vets heard of it? I am just asking.
I want to cure my dog. But I am not a vet, and trying to persuade a vet to do all this extensive treatment without data to support it is pretty much impossible and I live in a big city! And our suburbs have LOTS of feed stores. If you know of anyone in the Dallas/Fort Worth area (Texas) please let me know. Until then, I feel my hands are tied unless I learn how to do an LP on a dog.

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Re: Anyone out there with a dog LIVING with Distemper??

Post a new topicby Daveyo on Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:16 am

Hi Scrubby;

Yes it is true for 20 years. Dr. Sears has been trying all this time to get this published into the journals, but these smarts just don't want to do this and we do not know why. I myself have encountered this same problem back in October of 2007 and I told them that this works and everything possible to prove it. No go. Finally when I did the electron scope thing with them only then did they begin to believe it possible that this works. Keep in mind the word possible because it is still not in the journal. Because of this visual proof from the micron scope, they allowed me to get the CSF tap done on my two dogs. Today they are still amazed that these same dogs still alive and kicking like a storm. Problem is the VET Board. These are the top smarts. In laymans terms to be brief, they do not like one upmanship coming from a peon like me or from some field doctor like Dr. Sears. It sort of hurts their pride too much. In fact every cure in medicine that we have now today, all the discoveries came from """""""field doctors"""""" and not one from a lab until just recently from Mayo Clinic but actually it is not a cure, but a means to restore the myelin and Schwann cells that were damaged from the virus. Yes we did achieve this much basically accelerating the repair process doing it genetically. So much for medicine.

In your case tell the VET that you will totally absolved this doctor of any lawsuit of any kind period. They are too scared. Also tell him you will not bring up the subject as to threaten his license etc. That is why right now your running into a wall. If you can legally clear him, make sure he promises to do exactly as I have and Dr. Sears has instructed. Tell this VET he has nothing to lose but more to gain and he can see the results with his own two eyes!!!!!!!!!! including yours too.

Right now your dog is warning you. Based on the description, your dog is having demyelination ongoing, and this is progressive until you get that NDV into your dog, of which means soon he will be experiencing paralysis just like my Charlie here. You have to do this very quickly and I truly do mean quickly. That virus is like pac man eating up everything inside him without a thing stopping it. Only the NDV can stop it dead on its tracks.

My site is http://www.caninedistemper.proboards60.com Write this down now before this disappears. Register yourself there and copy and print the data under Canine Distemper at my site and give it to your vet.

If you have the NDV right now in your hands, you can get any medical person, ANY medical person who has knowledge of syringes and needles and have them help you and inject this to your dog in the front legs into the vein. Do this right away. Then after you do this plea with the VET to do the CSF tap for you.

If you don't get that CSF tap done soon, your dog is doomed and definitely will have a death sentence guaranteed.

If you do the CSF tap your dog will live and be allowed to recover and this death sentence gets vacated. I can tell you that much as my personal guarantee to you. Why, I have two of them living with me right now on my lap as I write. The cure in the CSF takes 24 hours. After that, your dog will be happy and definitely will be exhausted since the immune system took a shot caused by the virus having a field day, plus the pneumonia which you have to treat, and the virus is stopped cold turkey.

Think of it another way. Say you got sick with a bad case of the flu, and sore throat and the cold and you got pneumonia at same time. Definitely you end up in the hospital. Ok they treat you for your pneumonia, and then give you a vaccine that puts your immune system into hyper drive and your cured of this flu, sore throat, and cold inside of 24 hours, except for the pneumonia which only antibiotics does the trick. Of course your body will be awful tired too, needing a lot of rest. Same for a dog my friend.

I am in Thailand right now. Dr. Sears is in USA right now. He does have an addy and its antidistemper@aol.com of which you can also write to him direct. In fact he should be on his computer right now. Contact him, and maybe he can persuade your vet to talk to him as well. Better to have one VET talk to another field VET.

The problem is the time factor for petes sake. You got to take your dog and get on your knees and hand that VET the NDV and tell him to do as the instructions I have given and for him to save your dog. This tap can be done in less than a half an hour. Yes, after giving the dog the anti shock meds, using the anesthesia to get him in deep sleep as to not move a muscle, plus a little I.V, Plus two syringes and some saline plus your NDV and shave the back part of the dogs head bottom part of the skull and he can have all this done in about a half hour to forty five minutes. Does not take long.

Then he can give the Baytril and penicillin G while the dog is still sleeping prior to waking up. Your dog will wake up and when it stands on its feet, your ready to take him home.

Again I remind you, your dog is already showing the paralysis symptoms. After the CSF tap is done, I guarantee you this virus is killed 24 hours later in the CNS. My personal guarantee. Also you probably will continue to see the paralysis continue for the next 30 days, because of the damage done by the distemper virus. This does not show up right away, but shows up gradually as time and days go by. There is no more progression of the damage caused by the Distemper virus because NDV stopped this progression and I personally guarantee you this, but what your going to see is the final and actual results of this damage by end of 30 days caused by the Distemper virus itself. Starting about the 45th day or so somewhere around that point, your dog will experience a stimulation excitement and believe me your dog will be pestering you and moaning and groaning. What this means is the body is starting to recover and your dog will react to even the slightest touch like it is in pain but really it is the sensitivity coming back. This comes in stages over the course of time. The beginning one will probably last a good 12-18 hours. My Charlie here it went on for a good 14 hours. After this, these particular stages occur every 40-50 day cycles and the length of the stimulations vary. After each one, the dog gets better and better physically.

What its doing is the nerves are making new neuron pathways to replace the damaged pathways and also rebuilding new Schwann cells and making new myelin. So make sure your dog is eating good like the more fat cells your dog receives the better the myelin. Myelin is fat tissue. OK

A better way of describing > say you have a electrical wire and this wire is solid wire. Ok . The wire itself is the neuron pathway for the electrical signals to travel known as neuron receptors. The outer part is the insulation. This insulation is the myelin. At different sections of this wire it has say a storage house, and this storage house is the Schwann Cells. Another way of saying its the factory that makes the myelin. OK. This keeps the myelin sheath covering for the neuron pathway so the receptors can travel back and forth from Brain command to fingers. Understand.

Now if you strip this myelin, or take the insulation of the wiring off and let it touch open, those receptors escape and go into oblivion and that finger never gets the command to move. Understand. This is known as a short in the circuit. Without the Schwann cells manufacturing the myelin it stays stripped and this area is considered a dead line, thus no feeling and no movement. Paralyzed.

This is what the virus is now doing to your dog since it is beginning to stumble. It is going to get worse until you get that NDV into the spine and brain area fast. Without any NDV your dog will literally gasp for breath since it will also paralyze the lungs as well thus suffocating it to death. On the other hand, It can also get worse, like causing brain damage destroying the neuron receptor control command inside the brain. When this happens, viola these receptors go out of control and bingo you got seizures. Once a dog starts the seizures and without any NDV, death is imminent within 7 days or less.

I am working on that problem now on how to get this receptor command center repaired since I now know its precise location in the brain area. White matter in the brain area is stem cell matter. This is the same area that has been elusive for decades for all researchers in their efforts to try to control epilepsy.

I hold the keys to this as well, and that is going to be another biggie. Again I hope to achieve another miracle with the help of Dr. Sears. When????? don't know.

You can have your VET call Sears Vet Hospital in Lancaster California, and they will patch him thru to Dr. Sears Direct via phone. If you want to go that far. Dr. Sears is in Utah, and yes I know his precise address but cannot give it here. I hope you understand.

Now I hope you understand how serious the situation is with your dog. I wish I can do more for you, but if you want to call me in Thailand, I will talk to your VET if he truly wants to speak to me.

Do write back immediately if he wishes to speak to me, and I will give you my number ASAP. You can also contact me at PurpleWitch2 at msn dot com I will give you my direct number there.

Daveyo

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Re: Anyone out there with a dog LIVING with Distemper??

Post a new topicby Daveyo on Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:27 am

Scrubby

I forgot to also tell you that here in Thailand they are having a major epidemic ongoing of many dogs getting Distemper I went north with a group of doctors and government officials, and went to one of the temples here. This place had many dogs numbering a good 300 of them or more. People were dropping them off like no tommorrow. Anyway we chose 100 dogs, and did only 50 dogs. I provided the NDV to these dogs here and had the VETS do the work so they can learn and also see the results. Well those 50 dogs got cured and those that had the other signs we also did the CSF tap too. This was over 30 days ago. Well out of that 100 dogs, the 50 who did not get the NDV are all DEAD. The ones who got the NDV are in good shape and healthy since we marked them and tagged them and all accounted for and alive and are with the monks now showing no further damage from the disease except the after effects like some goop and hard pads caused by that virus. go figure.

So again no go to get it to the JOURNALS. Why?????? I tried again. Darn. In spite of pure visual and medical results given in front of them seeing it for real.!!!!!!! These smarts don't like being put down and don't like the one upmanship since they are not the ones who discovered the cure.

What a world we live in. That is why I am going to do something about it this coming fall. You can bet on it.

Daveyo

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Re: Anyone out there with a dog LIVING with Distemper??

Post a new topicby Daveyo on Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:57 pm

Scrubby

I suggest you get out of the city and get in the countryside and find a VET outside of the city limits. More likely you will find someone willing to do the CSF tap for you. Hit the phone books hard and make a few calls. Your running out of time and that virus is not going to stop until it kills your dog.

Right now you're in the battlefield zone. Either you let the enemy (the virus) destroy you, or you destroy your enemy (the virus). Its as simple as that. In between all this your dog is being held hostage by the virus. Your best weapon and best method of attack to rescue your dog is NDV. Period and bottom line. If the virus wins you lose your emotional well being and also lose your dog as well. If you win, you get the dog and your vindicated and defeated this virus.

Basically its a do or die situation > no ands , ifs , or buts about it. I have won and I have been winning not only saving my two dogs that I have mention but also saved the third one inside the 6 day window which is Mikey here, and has saved now 50 strange dogs here in Thailand. I would never say this unless it being true. That is who I am.

Daveyo

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